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July 27 2008
(22:34:27) Deviant: Who runs the boards on shanachan.konosutekinabasho.net ? (22:34:34) Deviant: specifically the Cosplay board (22:34:39) ElGruntox: me (22:34:47) ElGruntox: whats up (22:34:52) Deviant: Ahh ElGruntox i should have known i'd find you here. (22:34:55) Deviant: So who REALLY runs them? (22:34:59) ElGruntox: ive always been in here (22:35:04) ElGruntox: always.. (22:35:42) Storlek: Deviant- shanachan (22:35:44) ElGruntox: hey anon hop me really quick (22:35:57) Deviant: Storlek, are they not here? (22:35:57) Evo-chan: ElGruntox: How is your owl? (22:36:01) ElGruntox: dead (22:36:02) Storlek: ElGruntox- soliciting gay sex? (22:36:06) ElGruntox: yes (22:36:08) mode (+h ElGruntox) by anon (22:36:11) Evo-chan: :< (22:36:14) Deviant left the room (Kicked by ElGruntox (ElGruntox)). (22:36:15) ElGruntox: thanks (22:36:18) Deviant [Deviant@synIRC-8D0A5F.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] entered the room. (22:36:22) anon: wait, what? (22:36:25) ***Storlek facepalms (22:36:28) ElGruntox: thats about it (22:36:30) Deviant: So either point me in the right direction, or you tried your best and I start sending C&D orders (22:36:32) mode (-h ElGruntox) by anon (22:36:35) Deviant: Your move. (22:36:48) anon: oh (22:36:56) anon: shanananana is... (22:37:00) ElGruntox: me (22:37:01) Deviant: There's a ton of my copyrighted material on his boards. (22:37:06) anon: hm (22:37:08) Storlek: oh lord. (22:37:14) ElGruntox: I will remove it immediatly (22:37:14) Deviant: And I thought I'd try and be nice about it. (22:37:24) Deviant: ElGruntox the grownups are talking. (22:37:42) ElGruntox: deviant you are stupid gahaha (22:37:42) anon: I don't actually have nay idea who runs that. (22:37:47) Deviant: I'd even be willing to make an exclusive content deal with him considering that we seem to be popular there. (22:38:02) ElGruntox: hahgahhaha (22:38:10) anon: ElGruntox: can it. (22:38:22) ElGruntox: anon just (22:38:23) anon: Deviant: sorry, we're not the people to talk to. (22:38:25) ElGruntox: look at that (22:38:31) Deviant: No, but I was hoping you could point me at who IS. (22:38:35) anon: you'll have to do some legwork on your own (22:38:41) anon: because I'm in the dark. (22:38:47) Deviant: It flies under your banner. (22:38:57) Evo-chan: didnt cidsa host it at one point? (22:38:59) Deviant: ansarbeck@gmail.com (22:38:59) Evo-chan: or something (22:39:06) anon: not on that domain. (22:39:08) Deviant: the domain is owned by some guy in CA (22:39:16) anon: try emailing him. (22:39:27) Deviant: That's my next step. (22:39:31) anon: like I said, we're not in direct contact. (22:39:53) Deviant: If I don't get a response from him, the onus will be on you. (22:39:58) Storlek: no it won't (22:40:00) anon: on what grounds? (22:40:16) Storlek: it'll be on whomever pays for the server (22:40:17) anon: and what, exactly, would you have us do about it? (22:40:26) ElGruntox: dndfj (22:40:30) ElGruntox: this is hard (22:40:32) Deviant: Well, I suppose you're right, but I'll contact his host and your boards may be affected. (22:40:49) Fewlio: lol deviant back in here (22:40:55) Storlek: Deviant- are you some butthurt 17 year old "artist" who watermarks all his crap? (22:40:55) ElGruntox: Fewlio, i cant stop laughing (22:41:10) ElGruntox: storlek he runs a cosplay site (22:41:13) Fewlio: gruntox: this is the second time he's been in here all :mad: about someone posting his content (22:41:16) anon: having a link to a board that we do not run, and in fact are not associated with in any way, that is violating copyrights, is not illegal. (22:41:19) ElGruntox: i know (22:41:19) Fewlio: cosplay porn site (22:41:24) ElGruntox: its hard not to stop laughing (22:41:27) Storlek: or do you actually have material that's been published in a *gasp* real art book (22:41:34) ElGruntox: i dont think he *gets* iichan (22:41:37) Deviant: You know, I just thought I'd try and contact someone to try and resolve this in an amicable fashion (22:41:39) anon: the worst that we could do is drop it from the sidebar. (22:41:39) Deviant: I can see that was a mistake. (22:41:42) Storlek: i don't think he *gets* the internet (22:41:45) anon: I can't help you. (22:41:56) ElGruntox left the room (Kicked by anon (anon)). (22:42:01) Deviant: I don't think you *get* copyright law. Am I just supposed to let him host my content. (22:42:01) ElGruntox [~Alan@fatchan.org] entered the room. (22:42:02) Deviant: ? (22:42:03) ElGruntox: hey now (22:42:12) anon: It's honestly not my problem. (22:42:18) Storlek: no, but whining to unrelated people about it isn't the route to take (22:42:25) Deviant: Well don't act like I'm the bad guy for trying to reach him directly. (22:42:30) Storlek: that's exactly what the contacts in the domain whois are for (22:42:33) Deviant: Rather than firing off C&D to anyone who'll listen. (22:42:34) Storlek: try using them (22:42:44) Evo-chan: http://shanachan.konosutekinabasho.net/cosplay/src/1210724062968.jpg is this cosplay (22:42:53) Storlek: jesus fuck (22:42:55) Deviant: yes that is our private content >:[ (22:42:56) anon: Evo-chan: blegh (22:43:01) Evo-chan: :V (22:43:02) Deviant: PEOPLE PAY BIG INTERNET DOLLARS (22:43:03) Storlek: you're all butthurt about THAT (22:43:14) ElGruntox: Storlek, hahaha (22:43:19) Deviant: no thats not mine (22:43:21) Storlek: get out of your fucking basement (22:43:21) Fewlio: lol (22:43:24) anon: I think this conversation is over. (22:43:32) ElGruntox: this is worse than in ppp (22:43:38) anon: we've got nothing else constructive to say to each other (22:43:40) Deviant: Don't make me the bad guy for trying to be nice about this. (22:43:47) anon: good luck in your future endevors. (22:43:58) Deviant: Endeavors. :eng101: (22:44:02) Fewlio: yeah most people in iichan don't know how to get in contact with the majority of board admins (22:44:08) anon: hurr typo. (22:44:27) Deviant: I just expected you to have more control over the boards you link to. I guess I was mistaken. (22:44:29) Storlek: oh and you're also a SA fag (22:44:40) Fewlio: well this is goonIRC (22:44:43) ElGruntox: the keyword there is (22:44:45) ElGruntox: link to (22:44:51) ElGruntox: why would iichan have any control over them (22:45:02) Storlek: imagine if everyone on the internet controlled every site they linked to (22:45:02) Fewlio: iichan is a network, there is no top (22:45:10) Deviant: Because you don't in any way advertise them as being external (22:45:17) Storlek: oh my god this site has CP on it (22:45:19) Deviant: as far as an outsider can see, it's all under an umbrella. (22:45:20) Storlek: it's google's fault! (22:45:22) Storlek: they linked to it! (22:45:24) Fewlio: why would you have to advertise a website as being external? (22:45:30) anon: a quick look at the domains dissuades someone of that idea. (22:45:52) Deviant: I disagree. (22:46:02) Storlek: my mistake for thinking at first that this would be at all a rational or logical conversation (22:46:10) anon: you know? I don't think it matters. (22:46:10) Storlek: you're a nut job (22:46:28) Deviant: Whatever. I've tried to contact someone here, and failed, I'll take the appropriate actions. (22:46:29) anon: Like I said, try the contact emails in the whois. (22:46:29) Deviant left the room. (22:46:34) ElGruntox: its kind of a bad business practice to come into a public irc chatroom waving around c&d threats (22:46:35) anon: christ. (22:46:38) ElGruntox: pm's are great (22:46:45) ElGruntox: anon do the right thing and ban him (22:46:51) anon: he won't be back (22:46:52) ElGruntox: remember when he tried to get ads on your website (22:46:54) Fewlio: we don't ban people (22:46:55) ElGruntox: yes he will (22:47:03) anon: not anytime soon, in any case. (22:47:07) ElGruntox: just you wait (22:47:08) anon: brb logging.
LATER THAT EVENING:
Dear Webmaster:
It has come to my attention that you have made an unauthorized use of my copyrighted work. I have reserved all rights in the Work and have registered copyright therein. Your work entitled http://shanachan.konosutekinabasho.net/cosplay/ is essentially infringing upon our copyright by allowing the posting of our copyrighted content viewable at:
http://shanachan.konosutekinabasho.net/cosplay/res/7140.html http://shanachan.konosutekinabasho.net/cosplay/res/6953.html http://shanachan.konosutekinabasho.net/cosplay/res/7345.html
As you neither asked for nor received permission to use the Work as the basis for [name of infringing work] nor to make or distribute copies, including electronic copies, of same, I believe you have willfully infringed my rights under 17 U.S.C. Section 101 et seq. and could be liable for statutory damages as high as $150,000 as set forth in Section 504(c)(2) therein.
I demand that you immediately cease the use and distribution of all infringing works derived from the Work, and all copies, including electronic copies, of same, that you deliver to me, if applicable, all unused, undistributed copies of same, or destroy such copies immediately and that you desist from this or any other infringement of my rights in the future. Furthermore, your userbase needs to be informed that our work is copyrighted and they do not have authorization to reproduce or distribute copies of our content. If I have not received an affirmative response from you by November 1, 2007 indicating that you have fully complied with these requirements, I shall take further action against you.
If, in the future, you are interested in discussing a further mutual advertising or content exchange agreement to allow our works to be posted, by all means, I urge you to contact me.
Very truly yours,
Matthew Martin Webmaster, CosplayDeviants.com
STILL LATER, A REPLY WAS SENT:
"Dear Boner Robin & Co:
As per your request, I have fowarded this to the admin of the "shanachan" subdomain. Unfortunately, as my time machine was in the shop today, I was not able to meet your deadline of "November 1, 2007." However, I assure that justice has been taken to its fullest capability and that all infracting IPs have been reported to AOL.
Have a happy internet, -Anchan"